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From Broken to Called: How Mandy Holloway Turned Pain into Kingdom Purpose

  • Ryan Franklin
  • 6 days ago
  • 41 min read

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What happens when someone gives Jesus their full and unconditional “yes”? In this powerful episode, Ryan sits down with evangelist Mandy Holloway — a woman whose life and ministry are fueled by radical obedience to the Great Commission. From the prison to the pulpit, from Uganda to Ireland to the Philippines, Mandy shares what keeps her passion burning 23 years after her salvation. You’ll hear stories of healing, deliverance, and bold Kingdom work — all rooted in the simple Gospel. Whether you’re in local ministry or dreaming of the nations, this episode will reignite your calling and remind you that the same Jesus who saves also sends.




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Give God the little yeses every day. Just start being intimate with him, pursuing him, letting his word wash your mind. Okay, if this is who you declare that I am, let me find every scripture that goes with this and let me just declare it over my life until it moves from here to here and it's in every fiber of my being. So when the enemy comes with his lies, when the people come, I'm not being swayed. Welcome to the Christian Leader Made simple podcast. I really hope this episode helps you learn and master the skills you need, grow your leadership, effectiveness and enjoyment. Be sure to hit the subscribe button to get notified as soon as I post a new session so you don't miss a single episode. I'd also greatly appreciate any reviews, likes and shares that you can give me. It just helps me extend my reach to more people. 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I have a few more things on my website that you may be interested in, so just head on over to ryanfranklin.org and and check it all out. And now let's get to our session. Welcome to the Christian Leader Made Simple Show. I'm your host, Ryan Franklin, and on the show today we have a special guest. Her name is Mandy Holloway. Mandy's story is nothing short of radical transformation. From a dramatic salvation experience at the age of 20 to a life that is now saturated with missions work around the globe. She loves prison ministry and she's engaged throughout the week in service to her local church. She's a walking testimony of what it looks like when someone says yes to Jesus. Her passion is very simple, to know him and to make him known. And whether she's preaching in Africa, ministering in prisons or working at her church house of prayer in Thibodeau, Louisiana. It doesn't matter where she's at. She's doing Isaiah 61 work, bringing healing, freedom and hope to the broken. And she's doing it with a ton of boldness. And I'm excited to have her on the show today. So welcome to the show, Mandy. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be a part of this. Yeah, I've been looking forward to this. We talked about this months ago at District Conference, and now it's a reality. I'm excited to be able to ask you a few questions today. So I know you have a tremendous testimony of God's grace. You actually gave that testimony in a lot of detail at POA recently. It was just phenomenal. Blessed a ton of people. But I would love for you, for the sake of our audience, would love for you to take us back and sort of share the moment or the experience that first sort of ignited your calling into kingdom purpose. What were some of those early moments that shaped your yes to Jesus? So you know, Ryan, when I first came to God and he started doing a work in me, God began to heal me and deliver me. Of course, being filled with the Holy Ghost was the best moment to date of my life. Nothing can compare. And God delivered me of a lot of things. But my journey of healing took time. I had to be healed of a lot and from my past. Broken mindsets, a broken heart, disappointments. But whenever I first came to God and I just gotten filled with the Holy Ghost, the pastor did a call for whoever wanted to go to Germany on a mission trip. And I just, I had the thought it was going to be at a college campus. And they explained that their Christianity wasn't a big deal, that really they didn't know much about Jesus there. And so I just was like, if there's another Mandy Holloway in Germany that doesn't know Jesus, like, I'm willing, I want to go share what God has done. I didn't know much at the time. I literally had a children's Bible because I was trying to learn as fast as possible. And so I just went because he called, he said, and he talked about the Great Commission and that he's called us to do this. And so I went home, I read the Great Commission, and I'm like, I, I read this Bible from the beginning as if he was talking straight to me, that the author was speaking to me, not the person next to me, not super religious people or people that went to Bible College. I have always read this book when it's when. As if. As if Jesus is just talking to me. And so for me, the Great Commission wasn't a great suggestion. It was the Great Commission, and it wasn't suggesting that if I have time or if I can. He was commissioning me to go out and preach the gospel and to teach and to baptize. So I'm like, all right, let's do this. And I didn't know much, but I knew what God had done for me. And so I couldn't quote scripture or anything like that. Went to Germany, and, I mean, I just started sharing with anyone who would listen, just sharing my testimony. And I talked a lot at POA about what we did out there, the outreach. But when I came back, they asked me to speak at a section rally, youth rally. I didn't even know what that was. I had to borrow clothes that were appropriate to be on a platform. I was just a new baby in Christ. And when I looked at the congregation, I saw it was people from our district, people that were in my college classes, people that were in. That I knew from the college campus. And I could not believe, Ryan, that these young people knew about the Holy Ghost, knew about baptism in Jesus name, knew that you could be healed and transformed. And these people never told me. And I was standing at that mic, and I just. That was the watershed moment for me. I couldn't believe that these Christians, these apostolic Pentecostal people that had the truth passed me every day and didn't tell me. They sat next to me in classes. I was in some of their study groups. I was in some of their labs. And I was suicidal. I was bound. I was addicted. I was broken. I was depressed. How did they not see that? How did they not feel that? And why would they keep this truth from me? And something just clicked in my spirit that day. I cannot describe to you. And I just. In my head, I was like, I will never not tell anyone about this truth. I want everyone to have what I have. I want people to be free and delivered and healed. I want them to experience beauty for ashes. I want their broken hearts to be mended. And something clicked in me. It's like a fire went off of me that day. And I saw in the Scriptures where Jeremiah says, like a fire shut up within my bones. And I have prayed that every day for 23 years. God let it be a fire shut up within my bones that does not go out. But it's our job to rekindle the fire. And Put that wood. Keep putting the wood. I can't just sit back like at a campfire and think the fire is going to kindle itself, Right? So I've had to find what, what sets me on fire for God and keep that, that fire burning. But I would say that moment was the moment where something just clicked in me. I cannot let another Mandy Holloway pass me by knowing this truth that's not happening on my watch. I'm not so daily praying for divine appointments, looking, expecting, and I would say that's the moment that really ignited me. Well, just thinking about that, you looking out at people that likely, you know, and I could just imagine myself sitting out there, maybe intimidated a little bit by Amandie Holloway and, you know, crossing paths with her in public or in classes or whatever. What do you do to overcome that intimidation that others may feel and be hesitant to reach for people, but you don't, you obviously have a strong boldness, and you don't let the fire go out. What do you do to keep that intimidation down? So, I mean, I pray and I ask God, give me Holy Ghost boldness every day. Give me Holy Ghost boldness, God. And there's a scripture, don't fear the faces, that he'll put the words in your mouth. I pray daily for divine appointments. So and I ask God to help me be very sensitive when someone's approaching me. Every person in church, out of church, I'm anticipating an unction of the Holy Ghost to be like, this is it. This is the one talk now. You know, I'm listening in conversation for any little crack in the door to get Jesus. And I'm going, I'm going. But what I have to do, you know, I, I, I just know that everyone wears a mask. Everyone is, is fronting on some level, even the most spiritual people. And the people with all these, you know, doctorates, deep down, there is a little boy or girl in there that is wounded. I don't care how long you've been in church, that needs healing, that needs for to experience forgiveness, to forgive that's hurting. And so to me, everyone's on the same playing field. Everyone is. And everyone, whether in church or not, there is something that they're needing from God. And so I am looking for that. And I'm extremely prayerful. I'm extremely intentional. Going to the grocery store, I'm walking in and I'm praying, God, let me be sensitive. Let me hear, Let me be looking. While I am in any situation, I am intentionally asking God, show me, let me hear the cry of their heart, let me see past their mask. And when you live like that, the opportunities, they're everywhere. God is constantly putting people in your path. I intentionally walk across the street and talk to my neighbors. I intentionally go bring them food. I'm intentional. It's intentional living, looking to hear the cry of the lost. And a lot of times those people are even in your church. A lot of times, actually. And Mandy, that doesn't mean that you don't deal with insecurities inside and like fear of walking across the street and talking to somebody or whatever. I would imagine that you still deal with that, but you just push through it, through prayer and through. Really just pushing through it, huh? Absolutely. And you know, there's been large opportunities for me, whether on foreign soil or preaching to certain groups of people, large scale stages. And I just get the oil and I pray, I anoint my head. I'll have my husband pray over me. When I feel a spirit of fear and intimidation, I recognize it, but I can't entertain it. I did that for years. I had to be delivered of a spirit of fear. I had the Holy Ghost bound in a spirit of fear. And. But I entertain that fear. I listened to the fear's lies and I let it become my truth. And so once I got delivered a spirit of fear, I now recognize it and I refuse to entertain it. It doesn't mean it doesn't come at me, but I'm not entertaining it. And so I utilize my husband a lot. I ask him to cover me. I ask him to pray over me, pray over myself, and just I'm aware of that spirit and I don't entertain it. That's really good. And everybody deals with a little bit different things. Yours obviously is fear that you've got to watch out for. And it's ironic that you seem so bold in your personality, yet it's fear that you deal with. Has that been something that you've dealt with even way back as a little girl? Oh, yeah, for sure. And I know the fear comes to try to stop me from doing what God wants me to do. So I really try to focus on the souls past that. And why is the enemy coming at me of fear? Obviously he's intimidated by what's about to happen or, you know. But I can tell you in as Mandy Holloway, as a person without the Holy Ghost, fearful, intimidated and awkward. And so. But when the anointing of God comes, it all shifts and it's. It's almost like an outer body experience. It's not me and so what you see is the anointing of God. And that anointing comes with a boldness. And so, you know, I pray God, hide me in the cleft of the rock. Let your glory go before me and don't let, don't let them see me. Just let them hear you. And his anointing is. I'm so grateful. I'm like, I'm not doing nothing without your anointing, God. That's not an option. I have to have it. So, so. And I think the other thing that I'm able to counteract a spirit of fear when it tries to come is getting in the Word. What does the word say? What does the word declare about me? The word says I can, you know, tread on serpents. I have power and authority. It tells me all these things. So this is something I do. I have this little book, God's Creative power. And it's just the promises of God over my life. So I'll take it in the prayer room a lot of times and. And I just start declaring the word of God over myself. And by the time I'm done, I am so pumped up and I'm so ready for war. Like, I'm not intimidated because the Word, it washes the fear out of my mind and it just causes me to walk in power and authority of who he truly says. So sometimes I feel like this really just getting in the word of God. And just who does he declare that. That you are and believing it, letting it go from your mind to your spirit. And what a lot of people don't realize is it's a living word and it can truly empower you when you start speaking that word over you. And that's a phenomenal thing. And the neuroscience behind that, there's a spiritual aspect of that, but then there's also a neuro side of that where it literally shifts your, your brain into believing what the Lord is saying. And it's biblical. Yes. So you've spent the last decade or so, I'm not sure, doing ministry all over the globe, Africa, Guatemala, uk. I think you're headed to the Philippines here pretty soon. How did that international door begin to open for you? I know you had a trip as a new babe in Christ, but after that, how did the international door, where you really started truly ministering to people in a big way, how did that open for you? You know, I think when he can trust you with the little things, he gives you the bigger things. Right. And so in the very beginning, I remember just being on my face at an altar. And I said, God, whatever you want of me, you have my yes. I always say I'm a love slave. I'm sold out to you, God. And I have one master and it's you, Jesus. And my goal is to please you as my master. So wherever you want to send me, whatever you want me to do. And I probably did every ministry in our church, cleaning the toilets, you know, teaching children's church for years, just whatever God wanted me to do, I gave him my yes. I wasn't picky. I just, I wanted to give back to him all he's given to me. It is my reasonable service. I, I literally, that's a living sacrifice. And so it had been prophesied over me and my husband. We would minister on many foreign soil, I think about nine times by nine different people over these 23 years. But that was never my focus. My focus was today, God, you have my yes. So, so whatever you want. A door opened up at the juvenile justice facility. I may have push open, I probably did, but we raised money one Christmas and I was like, who can we bless with this money? And so someone told me there was the juvenile justice facility in our town. So I was like, okay, I'm going to contact them and see if we can bless the kids there. These foster kids there that have never been adopted, they've been abused and just been through a lot. And so the lady let us go do a Christmas party. And so I was like, well, can we come on Monday nights and, and do a Bible study? She was like, yeah. I was like, well, can we bring them to church on Wednesday? She said, yeah. I was like, what about Sundays? Yeah. And so me, I'm like, if you give me this much, I'm coming through. And so we just started bringing them. And for five years we taught Bible studies every Monday night. I think I missed a few times to give birth to some children, but other than that I did not miss. And we saw 56 of them get baptized in Jesus name, filled with the Holy Ghost. I mean, the power of God. But it was in that God told me, I'm giving you the heartbeat of the orphan. I'm letting you learn my heartbeat for the orphan. And so he, he just for five years, I mean, we poured into them. We'd have Saturdays, we'd barbecue for them. And we became foster parents to three of them over the years, teenagers. And then at that five year mark, God said, I'm about to open another door. And that's when someone just invited us to go To a trip to Africa. And then, you know, when it was prophesied, you'll minister on many foreign soils. I told God, I don't know people in foreign soil. I'm from Thibodeau, Louisiana. I'm a little Cajun girl from the bottom of Louisiana. I don't know people in foreign soil. You know, everybody in my family is. They're not even in my religion. You know, they don't even have the Holy Ghost. And so. But God told me I know people in foreign soil. And so I have. I've just. Literally, it's been people contacting me and just asking, saying, God spoke to me this. God spoke to me this year to come here. It's just. And he has blown my mind. But I don't have an agenda. My agenda is the will of God. And so I just kind of. I say, it's a roller coaster ride. Just strap on. Don't even try to hold on. Just enjoy the ride and let him be God. And it's so exciting. It's so fun. And really, honestly, I can't tell you, other than God, it's just opened doors, people contacting us that we don't even realize. It's truly amazing what he's doing. So I told him I'll go wherever he wants me to go. That's tremendous. Well, a lot of people probably think that Thibodeau, Louisiana, is foreign soil, huh? It is. It truly is. You know, one time. How's the crawfish down there, by the way? It's phenomenal. The food is amazing. You're not gonna see it. You're not gonna taste better food than South Louisiana. But one thing that's important to me, that I get a lot of people to do, I say, ask God who he says that you are. You know, we're given a lot of word curses over our life, a lot of things spoken over us. You're stupid, you're dumb. You're just like your mom. You know, all these things, right? And they become our identity. They become our truth. And. And so I tell women and men just sit before God. God, who do you declare that I am? And I did this years ago, and I said, God, who do you declare that I am? And this is what he told me. You're a voice crying in the wilderness. And so I know when I go into a prison, when I go into Africa, I'm just a voice in the wilderness. Prepare the way of the Lord. My job is to get them ready to meet Jesus. So it is exciting because I'm walking in my identity, and fear can't be there, because this is who God declares that I am. And so I'm just getting people ready. He's coming back, you know, Repent. Prepare the way of the Lord. He's coming back. Let me introduce you to my Jesus, because he's coming back for you, and he wants you to be part of his bride. So I think it's very important when you hear from God who he declares that you are, it also gives you a boldness to walk in, right? And South Louisiana is definitely the wilderness, and prison is a wilderness and all these places. But it's exciting because it's like, no, this is who he declares that I am. And so I'm just that voice in the wilderness. Prepare the way of the Lord. I love that. So you've connected Isaiah 61 with your call. You've made it sort of a central theme in your life. The power to bind up the brokenhearted, to see the captives free. Why is this passage so central to your life and your ministry? Why is it so important to you? Well, you know, it is my story. It's what Jesus did for me. But again, when we read it, I don't read it any other way, of when he said, the spirit of the Lord of God is upon me. Like for me, the spirit of God is upon me. That is the truth. And it says, he's anointed me to preach the good news. I believe he's anointed me to preach the good news. As I read line by line, it is the truth over my life. And so when I go anywhere, I know I'm going anointed. And he's anointed me to preach. And when I go to someone, anyone, and it's not exclusive to people in prison or people in loss, actually, I've had more almost in the church than outside the church. I tell the women in prison, y' all are a lot freer than a lot of people in church, even though y' all are in prison. You know, this. This is where the. The freedom's at right here. Um, it's what you believe. So what I like to do is walk people through and. And I give so much credit. Brother Michael Broussard from poa, he has taught me so much. He's been a mentor to me. I honor him. But just helping people walk through inner healing and deliverance and truly setting the captives free, bringing them back to their original wounds where. Where they were first wounded and. And. And what they need to be delivered from, and who they need to forgive. Maybe it's God, maybe it's themself, maybe it's the person that wounded them. And almost before they go forward, let's go back and let's get you healed and delivered. And let's see. What does God say about this wound? What does God say about who you truly are? Where, where this trauma happened, where this wound happened? I can remember, you know, with certain wounds in my life, what the enemy spoke and my spirit man received it. And I. I walked in it after that. So we gotta go back to that wound and God, what is the truth? Who do you. What do. What is the truth about this situation? And so it. It has. It has helped me walk women through and. And men through and give them beauty for ashes and, and help them get healed. And I'd like to share a story. Last Monday night we had 26 women in prison. And. And when we first started going to prison, nothing on the walls. Now there is scriptures everywhere. They take toothpaste and, and roll it together, make a. A putty, right? And so there's scriptures everywhere. And, and the whole course of the prison is, is shifted, right, because we have. Where. See, this is how I read it. Joshua 1:3. Wherever he gives you the soles of your feet, like, that's your land, that's your territory. So I walk into prison. This is my territory. This is not the devil's territory. This is my territory. And I declare that this territory belongs to Jesus. So the other Monday night, I'm telling them they have two sheets of paper. And I do this at a lot of retreats and stuff, but on the first sheet of paper, I had taught them about the truth. Who. God says his word is truth and the devil is the father of lies. And I'm teaching them all this. And I have music playing and low lighting and. And so I say right now, write every word curse ever spoken over your life, every lie of the enemy that doesn't line up with the word of God, I want you to write it down. And boy, they're writing it down and they're weeping and crying and the spirit of God is so strong in there. And I said, and when you're ready to tear this up, I want you to tear it up and declare this is not the truth. This is not who God says that I am. And when you're ready to let this go and not define you anymore, I want you to tear it up on the count of three. And boy, I said, 1, 2, 3. And boy, they're tearing it up. And they're just weeping, right? And. And that's. They're. They're brokenhearted, and God's close to the brokenhearted. And then I said, now, on this second piece of paper, I want you to. I want you to write down the first thing that comes to your mind. I said, jesus, come to your daughter right now. Who do you declare that she is right now? Jesus, declare who she is. And do you know? All of a sudden, a fire drill, A fire drill. And one of the prisoners said, boy, if y' all don't know, the devil does not want us to know the truth about who God says that we are. Look what's happening right now. And it backfired on the enemy. The prisoners started saying, the devil's a liar. This is nothing. But the devil, he don't want us to know. So. And I'm thinking, what do I do in a fire drill in prison? I don't even know. What do I stop, drop and roll? Where do I go? You know, I'm trying to. I'm trying to grab my computer. 74 women. It's chaos. And I'm mad. I'm mad at the devil. I'm like, I can't believe God. You are about to speak. And so I'm praying, are we going to have to leave? Are we going to have to come back? God, finish what you started. You finished what you started. Once it's all over with, I'll fast forward. The lady says, I guess y' all can go back in the room and finish what y' all were doing. And I'm thinking, how can I get 26 women back in here? Reset the stage, right? Do you know, within two minutes, 26 women were back in there. They turned off the. Some of the lighting. They were like, press the music, Miss Manny, let's go. And I was. Righteous indignation. I said, jesus, right now, who do you declare that your daughter is right now? And I'm telling you, the Holy Ghost came in that room and they started writing and writing, tears running down their eyes. I said, who does he declare that you are? Who does he? And they're like, I'm healed. I'm redeemed. I'm loved. I'm beautiful. He was rewriting their story. He was giving them beauty for ashes. I mean, tears rolling down the back. And I started praying, God, like brother Michael, Bruce, God, go back to every wound that ever happened to them from now to their mother's womb. God, bring healing right now. Speak the truth. And you could hear. And, boy, I Saw this lady in the back, she like this. And I went to her. I said, what happened? She said, the homosexual spirit left my body. I felt the homosexual spirit come out of me. I said, when did this enter you? I said, what did God show you? She said, when I was 2 and 3 years old, I was abused. She said, but that's not where it entered. He brought me back to my husband, who did horrible things to me. That's when I said, okay, the original wound was when you were a little girl, but when you got abused by your husband, it triggered that initial wound, and that's where the enemy came in. She said, Ms. Mandy, I felt that homosexual spirit leave me, and I'm not going back. I'm not going back. And we started praying, and she started speaking in tongues. God filled her with the Holy Ghost. But do you know all her homosexual friends she brought in with her son? So they're seeing it all. They're witnessing it all. And so I'm telling you, to me, that's putting fire. That's putting wood on my fire. It's teaching Bible studies. See the revelation of the name of Jesus. It's seeing the scales fall from people's eyes. It's them teaching them and saying, would you take me to the water now and baptize me in Jesus name to me. I said, you could take the pulpit. Just give me a prison, give me a law soul. Give me a Bible study. Give me someone that. That wants to be healed and delivered. And so, you know, that's my heartbeat. Isaiah 60:1 and then John, and then Jesus repeats it. He declares it over us. And he's like. He's telling us, we have the power and authority to do this. Why wouldn't we help people walk in this? Well, Mandy, you say, you often say it's just the gospel. And no matter where you're at, Africa, any international ministry, if you're on a big stage at POA or a conference or something of that nature, it's just the gospel. How do you unpack that mindset a little bit? I might need you to help me unpack it, because I honestly, I don't understand how we can read this word and not do what it says. It's not suggestions, right? So when you go to Matthew 25 and he says, you know, they say, when were you hungry and we fed you? When were you naked and we clothed you? When were you in prison and we visited you, he said, when you did it to the least of these, that's when you did it to me. And then it goes on and tells what happens to people that don't do that. They literally are sent to hell. I read that and I'm like, God, I'm not going to hell. I've come too far. I've given up way too much. I've come too far. I'm not going to hell. And so God literally Jesus said, I read this and he said, there's a prison down your street. You've never entered the doors of. And then I give excuses, right, but we did prison ministry in Uganda, but, but I went to a prison crusade in Tennessee and preached there. He said three times, he interrupted me, there's a prison down your street. You never enter the doors of. Like, so when I tell this to the prisoners, I'm here because your Jesus is madly in love with you and the relentless love of God, he's so madly in love with you, he sent me here. And boy, they just start weeping that God cares for them, that he would send me to them. And so I read this, Ryan, none of it is a suggestion. And this is where I need help. Maybe you can help me. So people tell me all the time, oh, that's so beautiful that you foster children. That's just a special calling. I don't see where it's a special calling. I read about the orphan and how he tells us to take care of the orphan and the widow and, and so I don't see where it says only special people with a certain calling when they see, oh, you go into prison. That's a special calling. I don't read in the Bible where it's a special calling when, you know, I go and teach Bible studies and they're like, oh my gosh, I don't know how you know, you just invite your neighborhood, you just invite people in your town to the. That's a special calling. It's almost a cop out. It's almost an excuse, it feels like. And I, I don't understand what they're saying. I don't understand because I never have read in this book. It's a special calling for special people to reach the lost and to tell them this truth. Like I say all the time, if you had cancer, would you keep that to yourself? You have the answer to salvation, to eternity, and it's only for certain people to share. I mean, I never went to Bible college. My dad's not in church. He's on his way. He's been baptized, he's coming. But, like, I'm not a special pedigree. So when I Read this and you can see it's all marked up. It's highlighted everything that is a commission, a highlight. And I say, God, you know, this sounds scary, but you have my yes. I don't know how I'm afford this, but you're Jehovah Jireh, my provider. I don't know. So I don't believe the lie that it's for certain people to do what he says to do. He says he gives us power and authority to do it, to cast out demons. Like, that's not certain people. It's people that are walking in intimacy and obedience with God. That's who he gives the power and authority to. So. And I think you may have answered this, but just in case there's anything more. 23 years of doing this. I mean, you're obviously on fire as much today or maybe more as you were on day one. I'd say maybe more. But what keeps that? I mean, you're throwing wood on the fire all the time. So how do you throw the wood on the fire? What is the wood that you throw on the fire to keep this burning after all. All these years? You're not burning out. You're burning in passion for the cause of Christ. What do you do to keep it? Yeah, so something. I pray every day, God, break my heart for what breaks yours. Break my heart for what breaks yours. So the orphan child that's being abused and neglected, I mean, our foster son, second, not the foster child we have right now, the one before came to us covered in feces. He throtted out lice covered in filth. Took us a month to bathe him because he was terrified of water and not been bathed. You know, that God, just like, these children are everywhere. And so it's like, to me, I'm like, what if every apostolic church, four people just said, I'll take the orphan. Like, we could eradicate foster care, right? So it's like, I'm like, come on. And then a lot of times it's just fear. So let me sit with you. Let me debunk the fear, right? Like, and so that little foster boy in church the other day, they sent me pictures, him and his little brother, who we still bring to church every Sunday. They don't. They live with their dad. He lets us bring him to church that he has both his little hands up, just praising the Lord at the altar two years after he left us. And I go in the prayer room with him, and he's telling his little brother, lift your hands, say praise the Lord. He's teaching his brother, just planting those seeds. That opportunity, you know, that sets me on fire when I'm teaching a Bible study and people are having the revelation or, you know, I sat across from a girl who was bound in homosexuality, taught her the word of God, and she said, wait, so when I come out the water, I get to start new? Everything I've done, I don't have to live like this forever. No. Her parents are sitting right there. She said, would you baptize me today? I said, yes. Her parents said, would you baptize us? They tell their, their parents. So the grandparents of the girl we baptized, me and my husband baptized the grandparents, then the girl's brother and the sister, and now they're all serving in ministry, coming from another denomination. The girl thought she, because she gave herself to this homosexual sin, she would have to live like this forever, you know, so putting those people down in the name of Jesus coming up and now seeing them serving, it's just, you know, you got to get busy. That's wood on your fire. Yes, you got to get busy about your father's business. And I'm not trying this. I'm just a stranger passing through. This world is not my home. I'm not fixed on. This world is fleeting. Right? Last week we were laughing, we were. We were ministering, preaching, but we had a car in the shop, our sewage backed up, a sewage pipe broke. And. And I'm like, it's okay. Like, we're not staying here. This is, you know, the enemy's trying to stop us, distract us. But I'm not, You know, we have poop coming out the shower and a pipe is busted. I'm like, we're not stopping. I'm not stopping. Devil. You're not going to stop me. I'm. I'm sold out to God. I gave the devil 110% in the world. What an insult to give Jesus anything less, right? So I think you just. When you start doing what the word says and you see lives changing, I mean, what that should set anybody if it don't, you better check your pulse or, I don't know, you need to get in a prayer closet or something. Because nothing fires me up like seeing someone get filled with the Holy Ghost for the first time. Unbelievable. It's my drug of choice. So, Mandy, as you're taking your drug of choice, you're also, I mean, you're a full time church staff member. You're a wife, you're a mom, you're a foster mom, you're a Traveling preacher. How do you protect your rhythm, your family, your walk with God? How do you protect yourself in the midst of being so passionate about the work you do for the Lord? Well, my first passion is my children, my marriage, my home. That's my first passion. And my husband, I've submitted to him. He is the pastor of me and my family. Thank God I have such an amazing, godly man of God. He sets my schedule a lot. When pastors call me to preach, I first go to him and submit it to him. He'll tell me yes, no, or let's move it to another, another month, push it back. And so I'm submitted to him guarding you? Yeah, he's guarding me. I've, I've. I've asked him for that. My pastor, Pastor Josh Malassan, does a phenomenal job. I'm submitted to him. But one thing, you know, I do, I do a lot of crock pot dinners. You know, I. I have to be very strategic with my time, super intentional with my time. I do not have any social media at all. That probably gives me the time that everybody else has, right? I don't do social media because the Lord told me I'm a jealous God, and he told me to get off of it, to protect me, and that the time I was spending in it, this is about three years ago that he wanted to impart to me and speak to me. So when I got off of it, I realized what a distraction it was, how it really was a distraction for me, and it stole a lot of my time. So now I'm either reading, I'm reading the Bible, I'm listening to a podcast, listening to preaching. I wake up early and pray and let. I press play on my Bible and just let the word wash me. And I just bask in his presence. I put on worship and I work out every day. I lift weights, I love lifting heavy weights. But I have worship music in, and I'm literally speaking in tongues. Anyone who works out with me knows I'm praying in the Holy Ghost the whole time. I mean, I'm lifting weights and I'm praying in the spirit. I don't even realize I'm lifting weights because I am just, I don't know, in the third heavens with Jesus. At my gym, when I drive in the car, I'll put on scriptures on healing or scriptures on power and authority. And so I'm super intentional with the time that I have. When I get up to go to the copy machine room, I'm praying in the spirit. The way there or I'm asking God questions, so. But at 3:34, you're double using all of your time. I have to multitask, right in the shower. That's when God's speaking. But I can say this, that I do pray, God, multiply my time. You made the sunset stand still in the Bible. So multiply my time. But at 3:30 when I get off, except for Mondays when I go to prison, it's my kids. It's my kids. I go home and it's. It's my children now, once they go to bed, a lot of times if I have to work on a sermon or something, I do. But my husband, he's so good. Like, he'll tell me on a Sunday or Saturday, he's like, go take a nap. Like, I got the kids. Like, he reads me and he. He kind of can take my pulse. But I try to eat super healthy and clean to protect this temple and give me the energy I need. And I'm very vigorous about my working out and the food I eat and the time. Just being super intentional with the time. And like I said, I don't have social media. I have one little game I play on my phone. When I have me time, I play a little few rounds, but I'm like, okay, only three rounds. Cause it's a slippery slope. Like, the enemy will just steal from you. I don't watch tv. If I do, it's a preaching sermon. So I just have to be super strategic with my time. And I love the fact that you have people in your life that sort of give you a check. They tell you, hey, Mandy, you're kind of out of balance here. And that would be your husband, your. Pastor, and my bishop brother Ronnie. I mean, he texted me the other day. He's like, I know Monday's big deal. You know, we had trial for my foster child. We had the podcast to go to prison. And he'll. He'll, you know, he sent me a text. He's like, make sure the rest of the week you're being strategic with your rest, you know, so, yeah, and I've asked these people to be that for me in my life. I don't. I want to be Besta Mangan preaching at 99, 100 years old. Right. Like, I. But to do that, it's important to have rhythm and to be intentional about your body, what you're eating, what your exercise, your controlling of the stress in your life, and all of those things. And you can't do everything. So you've got to Pick and choose what you're gonna spend your 24 hours a day on. Yeah. And you know, when I drive through my city, I'm prayer driving. When I'm passing through the schools, when I'm passing the courthouse, like, I'm prayer driving. So it's not like I'm doing all. I'm just try to be strategic with the time that I have. And so that's super. I've asked God help me creatively to achieve more in a day and be as effective as I can with the time you've allotted me. And I try my best. That's good. Yeah, that's good. So, Mandy, you're the type of person that engages heavily into something. If you set your mind to it, you're going to engage heavily. You've seen some miraculous things, healings, deliverance, salvation stories in your ministry. I've heard a few of them. I'd love for you to tell us, like, what is one of the most impactful things, either in prison, overseas, whatever, that you'll never forget. Yeah. So one of the first times, I was preaching in Uganda, Africa, and this is about five hours from the main city, just in the bush, mud huts, little naked babies running everywhere. Right. Witchcraft and Muslim are the main religions. And so I'm preaching. And as I'm preaching this woman, I'm preaching about the name of Jesus and the power and authority the name of Jesus has and that, you know, about being filled with the Holy Ghost and being baptized in Jesus name and having the power and authority that he gives us. And this woman, I mean, there's thousands of people, and this woman shrieks off the ground, I mean, like a snake, and just starts taking. Tossing and turning and hissing. And it was. It was wild. And that was the first moment. I mean, the authority, the power of God just came over me. And I went through the crowd and I just grabbed her and I just, you know, by the head and the chest, and I just. I command you, Satan, to come out of her. And I just started, you know, I. Every foul spirit, you go back to the pit of hell where you came from, and. And she doesn't speak English, Right. But the spirit world does. And so I'm just. I'm just with everything in me, and I am at that moment, every scripture I read about the power and authority we have as believers, I operated in. It was like it came to a head. And so there was no fear. It was total confidence in the word of God. And this woman, I mean, she would. It took four men to keep her down. She's coming off the ground. Archback, slamming back. And so I just started declaring the name of Jesus, taking authority. And that thing finally came out of her, and she. I grabbed her and I held her like a baby. And she started weeping. And when I lifted her head like this, she was just crying, speaking in tongues, Speaking in tongues. And it was like, at that moment, this is what I've read, and this is what he declares. Not just Mandy Holloway has. Every single one of us has. And so it was the moment for me. I'm like, this is how I'm living. I'm living and I'm facing every demon head on. I know the power and authority I have. So spirit of infirmity, you have to go. Depression, anxiety. Like, it's not. It's. It's for us to have authority over. And so in that moment, God allowed me to experience that. And I've experienced it so much in here in America, in the altar calls in America. I mean, people slithering, vomiting, just coughing up. I've prayed with prayer warriors of churches. Vomiting, coughing up stuff. People are. You don't realize how bound people are. Holy Ghost filled people, but they have wounds, and they need healing and deliverance. And that's what Isaiah 61 is all about. And so it's for us as believers to walk in what God declares we are to walk in, and we have that power and authority. It changes everything. You wake up different. You put your feet on the floor different when you believe. This word is for you, not the person next to you, but for you. Yeah. And I want to bring out, Mandy, the fact that, you know, a lot of times, even on this podcast, I'm speaking of the emotional side of things, and a lot of these wounds create a lot of emotion and a lot of pain and hurts, but we have to address both sides. A lot of times there's spiritual things connected to these things as well, and we got to do both. We can't just. We can't just ignore one and focus on the other. We've got to do all of it. We've got to seek healing in a lot of different ways, whether it be emotional, spiritual, physical, whatever the case may be. And the Lord is capable of providing all of that for us. Yeah. We're spirit, soul and body. And I find in. And I find in our movement, so much emphasis is on the spirit. Right. Acts through the, you know, getting filled with the Holy Ghost. Getting filled with the Holy Ghost. And that's great. Right. And we're sealed, but our soul is still wounded. And so we gotta get healing and that those wounds affect our body. And then our body has infirmities and sickness. So it's to be made whole. Spirit, soul and body. And that is. That has become my anthem. I know that God's anointed me to do this, help people get healed. Spirit, soul and body. And, boy, when you do, there's no devil in hell that can stop you. Exactly. And my mind goes to the fact to those ladies that you were helping them rewrite their story in the prison. I mean, that's emotional healing. I mean, it's spiritual as well, but that is emotional healing. And we need every bit of all of those that. Oh, yes, it's tremendous. Because if they just get the Holy Ghost and walk around wounded, that's a. That's an open door for the enemy to come in. And they got unforgiveness against this person. That wound them. That's. That's. That's legal access for the enemy to come in. And so we. We gotta. I love. I love it. Look, if Acts 2:38 is my anthem, but we still gotta get spirit, soul and body. We gotta get it all healed. So, Mandy, some young woman or young man who may be watching this right now, that feels such a call, a sense of calling to missions and evangelism. And they would love to be in radical obedience as you are, but they're unsure where to start. What advice would you give them? Yeah. And people say, oh, it's so radical. You're so radical. And I'm like, it's pretty radical what he did on the cross. It is. It is. Why are we holding back? You know, all that he went through on the cross was so radical. And then I'm like, it's only fair to give back. But you know what I can say to that young person? Just ask God, who do you declare that I am? Who do you say that I am? Because once you get that identity in him, you're going to have naysayers, you're going to have people. I mean, I went to Africa pregnant twice. Big and pregnant. And church people, oh, my gosh, I can't believe you're going to Africa pregnant. That's kind of. That's kind of. That's radical faith. And. And I'm like, okay, God loves my baby more than I do. He told me to go. He gave me confirmation. He's got me, you know, and if I die on a mission trip, what a great way to go, right? Like, please don't let me die in Some lame car wreck or something, you know, like, let me do die doing something awesome for Jesus. But, you know, people would tell me, like, I can't believe you would, you know, leave and go to a third world country and just all these things. So when. When you hear those things, whether from the world or church people, you gotta know that, you know what God has spoken over you. You gotta. You gotta have something to hang onto. When it gets hard, you're not. You're not quitting. And so I would tell that young person, get in a prayer closet, get to a pen and paper, and the first thing, God speaks. God, who do you declare that I am? What are you calling me to do when you form me in my mother's womb? That's what I do with the women in the prison. When he formed you in your mother's womb, he didn't form you to be a prisoner or an addict. God, right now, show your daughter who did you form her to be? What is her purpose in the kingdom of God? You should hear the things God speaks to these women. It changes everything, right? So I would get them to find their identity in God and then, you know, give God the little yeses every day. Just start being intimate with him, pursuing him, letting his word wash your mind. Okay, if this is who you declare that I am, let me find every scripture that goes with this and let me just declare it over my life until it moves from here to here, and it's in every fiber of my being. So when the enemy comes with his lies, when the people come, I'm not being swayed. So before we continue on with the podcast, this episode is brought to you by Christian Leader Community Coaching. Are you a Christian leader who is overwhelmed by the complexity of trying to figure out how to grow your team? I want to introduce to you our Christian Leader Community Coaching program. We have an easy to use online platform that has a full, full archive of courses, supportive community, live group coaching and elements that are customizable specifically for your team. And I've personally seen the quick and enormous impact that it can have on a team of leaders who are focused together on learning and mastering the skills needed to grow their leadership, effectiveness and enjoyment. And we want to be a part of that with you. We want to help you create and implement a plan. The community is very much affordable, but I would say that you can't afford not to have focused growth within your team. Your results heavily depend on it. So don't wait any longer. Let's do this together. Go to ryanfranklin.org and join Christian Leader community coaching today. I look forward to seeing you and your team inside the community. And now back to our podcast. And then ask God. Give me divine appointments. Align me with your will. Let me be syncopated in your perfect timing to your will and God. Open the doors only you can open and let me know and let me walk through. Like, let me walk through boldly and confidently. Any doors. Don't let a spirit of fear back me up into a corner. And so that's what I would do. And just those little yeses, they just turn into bigger yeses. I never dreamed I'd be doing this stuff I was doing. I was satisfied with teaching kids church and just, you know, cleaning the toilet like that. That was huge for me to give back to God for where he took me from. So I think too, not having an agenda. Like, I don't. I've never asked anyone to preach in my life. I've never asked anyone to go anywhere or do anything. I'm like, God, if you want me to go, you have people ask me and then I'll submit it to my pastor. And if he says yes, you have my yes. You know, I love the fact, Mandy, that you're saying I was perfectly fine teaching those kids. Yes. And, you know, I think that's where a lot of younger folks and people that feel a call to the ministry, even older folks, you know, sometimes their vision is too far down the road, and sometimes it's just the simple things. Let's start with the simple yeses in your local church. And what can you do in your local church or your community that's gonna make room for itself? Yes, your community. Like the door that opened at the jjc, the juvenile justice facility. You know, just so many things. I've prayer walked my steps city for years. Prayer walk in my cities and bar rooms have closed down. The bar rooms that I lay hands on and prayed for two years are now shut down, have never reopened. Like, that's a ministry. Just prayer walk. Taking your territory, you know, so I don't. I don't seek a pulpit at all. I. I mean, Jesus didn't preach on a pulpit. Right. He went to the woman at the well. He went to Zacchaeus house. I'm. That's, you know, you gotta go to the marketplace. You gotta get out there and just, God, how do you want to use me? And it's so powerful when you just submit to his plans and his agenda and don't have your own agenda. Absolutely. So we'll wrap up with this one last question, and then I would love to have you pray for us all, Mandy, if you wouldn't mind doing that. But looking forward, what do you sense God speaking for you for the next season of your ministry? And are there places, people, purposes, sort of stirring in your spirit right now? What's next for you? I really don't know. I'm excited. I know as much as you do. I know this. I'm a voice crying in the wilderness. Just recently, I'll be going November 8th to preach a thousand women revival at St. Gabriel's Prison. So excited about that, bringing 26 people from my church with me to work the altars, pray, cook. And the guy who's been implementing all this, he just reached out and said, I want your church to take the southern region of these state penitentiaries. And our goal together, what we're praying about is then we go do these big crusades. And then the local UPC churches would be ready to go and start Bible studies that week after and just, you know, start ministering in these churches. So that's my heartbeat for these prisons. I would love to launch foster care throughout our UPC churches and getting more foster families involved to take in these children and then just ministering on whatever soul soil he puts my feet. I'm. I'm here for it, so it doesn't matter to me, it's a. If it's a soul that needs saving, I'm here for it and I'm excited. I believe, you know, a third of Jesus ministry was deliverance and healing. And I think we're. We might be out of balance, you know, it's just like we need to get the deliverance and healing right there with the spirit, you know, with the spirit. That spirit, soul and body. So just helping a lot of women's conferences. I do. The women are so bound, so broken, filled with the Holy Ghost and just helping them, helping Jesus rewrite their story and getting the truth spoken over their life. So God showed me in Philippines what I'm going to be doing with the women there. And so just so excited. Whatever God wants, I'm here for it. So I think we're going to get to do prison ministry in the Philippines. So I've made the request. They said, what do you want to do? I said, I want to get in the prisons in the Philippines and I want to minister to these women and get them healed and made whole. So I have no plans, I have no agenda. I'm on God's plan and his agenda. Which is way more exciting than anything I can come up with. That's tremendous. Well, before you pray for us, I just want to say thank you so much for being on the show with us, Mandy. We'll let you close us out, but I want to tell you how much I greatly appreciate your time today. Aw. This was such an honor. Thank you. Thank you for all you're doing. So many people are blessed by your ministry. Thank you. Mandy, if people want to connect with you in some way online, where can they find you? Would that be at your church website, or how would they find you? I don't have any type of social media or anything. All my sermons are on YouTube. Him. Good luck. Yeah. You know, get in a prayer closet and ask God, what do you want me to know? What do you want me to do? And who do you say that I am? And he can do a much better job than I can. But all my sermons are on YouTube. If they type in Mandy Holloway. And of course, if, you know, they need to get in touch with me, they can reach out to House of Prayer Church in Thibodeau, Louisiana. Or become a friend. Request of my husband. He says he has a bajillion women followers as his friends on Facebook. He hates it. Everybody becomes friends with him. The child, they send him messages to get to me. But, you know, he's even protected me of that. It's. It's real heavy. A lot of people send so much stuff, and just the time, you don't. You can't. The weight of it, it's so. I have to guard myself with that. But, you know, Jesus can do a much better job than Mandy Holloway can. So. Well, pray for us as we close out. Lord God, we thank you so much. And, God, what you did on the cross for us, we just received. Receive it. We receive our healing. We receive our deliverance. We receive the power and authority you strip the enemy of that you now give to us. And I just pray that every listener just falls madly in love with your word and just takes ownership of the word and start walking in the power and authority you declare that we have. God, I bind and rebuke the spirit of fear and intimidation that holds people back, holds people back that have this truth. God, give us ears to hear the cry of the lost. Give us eyes to see. Your eyes to see through spiritual 2020 lenses. God and I just pray you break our heart for what breaks yours. I bind and rebuke a Laodicea spirit, a lukewarm spirit. God set us on fire for you a fire shut up within our bones, that you would order our footsteps and command our spirit and give us daily divine appointments with this lost and dying world. And I pray God you help people return to their first love of you, Jesus and God. I just ask right now that you would bless the ministry of Brother Ryan Franklin and what he's doing, that you would just broaden his territory. You would enlarge him, bless him indeed, and keep him from the evil One. And I pray as our movement as a whole, that we would rise up, that we would shake from our slumber, and that we would not read as the great suggestion, but the Great Commission you have commissioned us. And God help all of us to daily give you our yes, in Jesus name.


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